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My email to the congo....
by truthsetsonefree innow that the time has past i can give up the surprise that i sprung on the elders before my da'ing announcement.
i emailed the entire congregation!
or at least as many addresses that i had which was most of those who use email.
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At least ten hours each month...preaching
by MacHislopp ini do hope that all its fine with you, and allow me to post.
an example for someone special:.
"w61 6/15 p. 373 § 20 progressing toward maturity.
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Yes, 'the New World society' wanted total control of it's members, using Guilt and spiritual pressure.
In the 60's Pop would come home for a weekend after being on the road for 2-3 weeks straight; dodging potholes and State Troopers at the same time on I-80. (never got a ticket though)
We'd come home from the Thursday night meeting, and surprise, he'd be at the kitchen table with 2 sets of log books on the kitchen table.
The first words out of Mum's mouth, 'You didn't get your time in for the month! The anxiety that that caused in me from this stupid religion. Will he live or will he die? I thought, 'This is so Crazy'!
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Lawyers release survey on alleged Jehovah's Witness child abuse
by Tahoe ina team of lawyers has released the results of its survey on alleged child abuse by members of the jehovah's witnesses religious group in japan.. the team held a news conference in tokyo on monday.
it provides legal support to former members of the group as well as to children of its members.. the lawyers conducted the survey, following the publishing of the health and welfare ministry guidelines last year about child abuse related to parents' religious beliefs.
a total of 560 people responded.. the survey shows 81 percent of the respondents said they had cards indicating they desired to refuse blood transfusions.. the ministry's guidelines state that parents' refusal of medical treatments for children on religious grounds amounts to neglect --- a form of abuse.. the lawyers said investigations are necessary to find how many people died from refusing blood transfusions, and how many of them were children.. the survey also shows 92 percent of the respondents experienced whipping, 96 percent were banned from school activities, and 93 percent were forced to limit their human relations.. the lawyers said many of the children experienced physical and mental abuse, which afterward led to problems such as loneliness, sense of alienation and a lack of self-esteem.
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Lawyers release survey on alleged Jehovah's Witness child abuse
by Tahoe ina team of lawyers has released the results of its survey on alleged child abuse by members of the jehovah's witnesses religious group in japan.. the team held a news conference in tokyo on monday.
it provides legal support to former members of the group as well as to children of its members.. the lawyers conducted the survey, following the publishing of the health and welfare ministry guidelines last year about child abuse related to parents' religious beliefs.
a total of 560 people responded.. the survey shows 81 percent of the respondents said they had cards indicating they desired to refuse blood transfusions.. the ministry's guidelines state that parents' refusal of medical treatments for children on religious grounds amounts to neglect --- a form of abuse.. the lawyers said investigations are necessary to find how many people died from refusing blood transfusions, and how many of them were children.. the survey also shows 92 percent of the respondents experienced whipping, 96 percent were banned from school activities, and 93 percent were forced to limit their human relations.. the lawyers said many of the children experienced physical and mental abuse, which afterward led to problems such as loneliness, sense of alienation and a lack of self-esteem.
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'His parents instructed him to state his refusal to have a transfusion.
He repeatedly practiced his “lines” in front of the hospital’s examination room. He then recited them exactly to the doctor: “I believe in the teachings of Jehovah's Witnesses, so I cannot undergo a blood transfusion.”This may be the same experience. Fascinating that hospitals never got a court order for children in Japan.
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February 2024 Study Watchtower -
by BoogerMan infebruary 2024 study watchtower p. 2 par.
2 - "however, a question may arise: 🤣 what will happen to christ’s “other sheep” who will be serving jehovah faithfully on earth during the “great tribulation”?
(john 10:16; matt.
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Some today may worry
Philippians 4:6-7
Do not be anxious about anything, but in everything by prayer and supplication with thanksgiving let your requests be made known to God. And the peace of God, which surpasses all understanding, will guard your hearts and your minds in Christ Jesus.
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C.T. Russell, Occultist
by metatron inone aspect of the watchtower's history that has never been.
adequately explained is russell's fascination with the occult.. the end of the 19th century saw the prominence of many occult.
were obsessed with egyptian symbols and magick based on the.
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Sea Breeze 5 days ago
Here is some additional research indicating Russel was a Freemason:
@10:20
'Pyramid made by the masons'
Still unable to find total proof that Russel ordered it, though he may have, either way Rutherford carried it out.
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Associated Press. "JW's Time Keepers No More
by Bill Covert inassociated press article.
11-22-23 peter smith.. "timekeepers no more rank-and-file jehovah's witnesses say goodbye to tracking proselytizing hours".
made big time news..
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anniversary of JFK assassination
by desbah inthis is for all the ex-jw's on that dreadful day..... do you remember where you were when jfk was shot in dallas, tx?
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desbah - This is for all the ex-JW's on that dreadful day..... do you remember where you were when JFK was shot in Dallas, TX?
Carol 2nd Floor of Tuckerton Elementary School, changing classes between Science and US History.....Eddie Grayson passed the 6 of us in the hall and told us the President had been shot. Fifteen minutes later we were called into the auditorium to watch the coverage on TV
AK - Jeff - 18 years ago - Sitting in Mrs Weaver's 3rd Grade classroom. She came in and told us the president was shot and had died. Most of us did not know what a president was yet - those were more innocent times.
60 years ago
2nd Grade classroom, we were called into the auditorium to watch the coverage on TV, Teachers were crying. Too traumatic for young'un's, should have just ignored it.
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Associated Press. "JW's Time Keepers No More
by Bill Covert inassociated press article.
11-22-23 peter smith.. "timekeepers no more rank-and-file jehovah's witnesses say goodbye to tracking proselytizing hours".
made big time news..
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https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/timekeepers-no-more-rank-and-file-jehovahs-witnesses-say-goodbye-to-tracking-proselytizing-hours/ar-AA1klYgi
Timekeepers no more, rank-and-file Jehovah's Witnesses say goodbye to tracking proselytizing hours
Story by By PETER SMITH, Associated Press • 4hA woman shares Jehovah's Witnesses' literature with a passerby in downtown Pittsburgh on Monday, Nov. 13, 2023. Jehovah's Witnesses regularly distribute literature in public places and do door-to-door evangelism, but for the first time in more than a century, their congregations will not be regularly tracking their hours in ministry. (AP Photo/Peter Smith)© Provided by The Associated PressJehovah's Witnesses are well-known for proselytizing door-to-door and handing out their literature on city streets. Less known to the general public, their adherents have been required for the past century to make regular reports to their congregation's leaders on how many hours they put into such ministry.
Those hourly reports were a key metric for a congregation's spiritual vitality and a factor in deciding who rose to leadership. Former adherents tell of pressure to meet these quotas and guilt when they didn't.
But in a historic shift, that practice ended this month.
For the first time since 1920, leaders of the Jehovah's Witnesses have removed the hours-reporting requirement for rank-and-file adherents.
“Our ministry involves much more than counting time,” Samuel Herd, a member of the denomination’s Governing Body, said in announcing the policy change to applause at the October annual meeting of the Watch Tower Bible and Tract Society of Pennsylvania, a legal entity central to the Jehovah's Witnesses' work.
Herd said the Governing Body is “confident that you dear ones will continue to render whole-souled service,” motivated not by obligation but devotion to God, whom they call Jehovah. But he acknowledged leaders would have to adapt.
“You will have to know the flock well,” he said. “Evaluating a congregation’s spiritual health or a brother’s qualifications to serve (in leadership positions such) as an elder or ministerial servant will not simply be a matter of computing averages, time spent in the ministry, literature placements and so forth.”
The video of the meeting, held in Newburgh, New York, was publicly posted by the organization in early November, though leaked recordings circulated for weeks earlier on unofficial websites.
“This is one of the biggest changes I ever remember” in the organization, said former elder Martin Haugh of York Haven, Pennsylvania.
Removal of the hours requirement applies to “publishers,” or rank-and-file adherents involved in active ministry. They will now only need to file monthly reports saying whether they’ve conducted any evangelistic activity and Bible studies, without specifying hours.
Those who sign up for more extensive service, known as “pioneers” or “missionaries,” will continue to record their hours.
Skeptical former adherents, however, are speculating different motives are at play — that adherents' ministry hours have dropped so noticeably, particularly since the pandemic.
When numbers were growing, “it was always brought up at meetings or in their publications to show the growth of the organization,” said Mitch Melin of Washington state, a former adherent now working to bring awareness to what he calls the “darker side" of the organization, such as its control of Witnesses and the practice of shunning certain members. He speculated that "if they're declining, it might be embarrassing to show” the numbers.
Jarrod Lopes, a spokesman for Jehovah’s Witnesses based at their world headquarters in New York state, disputed this notion. He said ministry time had been increasing yearly until the pandemic, peaking above 2 billion hours worldwide. While the hours are below pre-pandemic levels, he said they began rising from 1.4 billion in 2021 to 1.5 billion hours in 2022 as Witnesses resumed door-to-door visits and other ministry.
Former elder Haugh, who left over what he saw as the denomination's mishandling of sexual abuse and other matters, said the hours requirement was once central in adherents' lives.
“It showed you how loyal you were to Jehovah by how much time was put in," he said.
Haugh recalled how a regional supervisor yelled at elders if their congregation's performance lagged. Haugh said marriages broke up over spouses' different levels of commitment, and people who were judged as failing at ministry would spiral into depression. "Now they don’t have to have that stigmatization that they’re not putting in the hours,” he said.
On a recent weekday afternoon, Jehovah's Witnesses were handing out literature to passers-by at various downtown locations in Pittsburgh — the 19th century birthplace of the movement.
Those interviewed said they planned to do as much ministry as ever and hadn't focused on the hours. “It doesn’t affect our day-to-day life," said Chuck Ghee, a local elder. "We give the best out of our heart.”
The Governing Body also devoted part of the annual meeting to revising its interpretation of biblical prophecies about the end times — a paramount focus of Jehovah's Witnesses.
The Governing Body now accepts that even in the final countdown to Armageddon, nonbelievers might still accept the truth and be saved. That reverses a previous understanding that, once an apocalyptic Great Tribulation gets underway, it would be too late.
That announcement, not yet formally made public, has also been circulating online on the same unofficial sites that distributed authentic recordings of the announced policy change on tracking hours.
“Will all those living during the Great Tribulation have a full opportunity to decide either for the kingdom or against it?” Governing Body member Geoffrey Jackson said at the annual meeting.
“We don’t know, and we don’t need to know because we’re not the judges," Jackson said. “We know that Jehovah and Jesus are merciful, that they will always do the right thing.”
Earlier leaders of the organization had raised expectations for apocalyptic events in specific years, such as 1975, which failed to materialize. Current teaching still puts a strong emphasis on the end times, but without predicting specific dates.
Governing Body member Jeffrey Winder said at the annual meeting that God reveals truth gradually and that the body is happy to have its understandings corrected.
“Knowing this, we are not embarrassed about adjustments that are made, nor is an apology needed for not getting it exactly right previously," he said.
Lopes declined to comment on the unreleased teaching videos before their scheduled release in January, following their translation into more than 200 languages spoken by adherents. While he neither confirmed nor disputed the videos' authenticity, he did say unofficial sites impinge on copyright when they distribute Watch Tower videos without authorization.
The changes come at a turbulent time for Jehovah's Witnesses. Worship gatherings in India and Germany suffered fatal attacks in the past year from former participants. Believers in Russia, where the denomination is banned, face persecution.
The Jehovah's Witnesses faces intense scrutiny worldwide over the handling of child sexual abuse. A Pennsylvania grand jury has charged 14 men since 2022 with sexual abuse within the organization.
The denomination counts 8.7 million adherents worldwide, with 1.2 million in the United States.
The changes in teaching and the practice of recording hours, taken together, can be seen as a “relaxation of the sectarian identity of the group," said Mathew Schmalz, a professor of religious studies at the College of Holy Cross in Worcester, Massachusetts.
On the one hand, “it's hard to see the Witnesses becoming a mainstream church, because it would lose some of its appeal to being the possessors of biblical truth” to the exclusion of others, Schmalz said. On the other hand, the organization wants “to have the public take them seriously as a religious organization."
Former elder Haugh said the changes don't make up for failures in reforming the handling of abuse or for battling former adherents and critics in court and other venues. “They may be nicer to their own members, but they’ve become even more against their former members,” he said.
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Lawyers release survey on alleged Jehovah's Witness child abuse
by Tahoe ina team of lawyers has released the results of its survey on alleged child abuse by members of the jehovah's witnesses religious group in japan.. the team held a news conference in tokyo on monday.
it provides legal support to former members of the group as well as to children of its members.. the lawyers conducted the survey, following the publishing of the health and welfare ministry guidelines last year about child abuse related to parents' religious beliefs.
a total of 560 people responded.. the survey shows 81 percent of the respondents said they had cards indicating they desired to refuse blood transfusions.. the ministry's guidelines state that parents' refusal of medical treatments for children on religious grounds amounts to neglect --- a form of abuse.. the lawyers said investigations are necessary to find how many people died from refusing blood transfusions, and how many of them were children.. the survey also shows 92 percent of the respondents experienced whipping, 96 percent were banned from school activities, and 93 percent were forced to limit their human relations.. the lawyers said many of the children experienced physical and mental abuse, which afterward led to problems such as loneliness, sense of alienation and a lack of self-esteem.
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But Jehovah's Witness 'New Light' says, there's no need to apologize.
https://www.reddit.com/r/exjw/comments/173ay7x/gods_channel_we_are_not_embarrassed_about/
